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Post by rexscar on Mar 14, 2009 20:02:52 GMT -5
well then (here we go again) If a tree fell in the forest and there was no-one around to hear it fall; would it make a sound? a. You would need to get everyone together and decide what a tree was first b. If sound is a human concept then NO c. If no-one was there then would it have even happened? (Schrodinger) answers on a postcard please  |
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Post by tkorrovi on Mar 14, 2009 21:05:44 GMT -5
Was that supposed to be a kind of why chicken cross the road question? With no tricly answers, this is about interconnectedness -- if this tree is connected to some interconnected system, then its falling would somewhat influence that interconnected system. But when there is a system which is not anyhow connected to that tree, then this tree doesn't anyhow influence that system and thus doesn't exist for that system.
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Post by rexscar on Mar 15, 2009 12:04:12 GMT -5
so you're saying that the tree would make a sound to the forest but not to us? but on that logic then surely neither the tree or the forest exist as we are not interconnected with them. |
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Post by tkorrovi on Mar 15, 2009 13:34:37 GMT -5
Whatever you think, but the only thing which solves that paradox is that all world is interconnected.
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Post by Mansoor on Mar 15, 2009 15:02:44 GMT -5
Yes it will make a sound base on immediate surroundings etc.
this question in itself is a fallacy "assuming that presence of an observer is all that matters" while quantum mechanics have failed in many instances to prove this assumption.
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